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Mode of production and ownership proposed (c. 2007) by Patrick Anderson, which is inspired by the philosophy behind the General Public License

Patrick Anderson aims to apply these ideas to the field of physical production as well.

Introduction

Richard Stallman's Ideas

Patrick Anderson:

The GNU GPL is very clear in its goal to insure the virtual Means of Production (source code) should be in the hands of the Users.

When RMS speaks of freedom it is always about the User (consumer), not developer, author, producer, worker or owner.

“‘With free software, the Users are in control. Most of the time, Users want interoperability, and when the software is free, they get what they want. With non-free software, the developer controls the Users. The developer permits interoperability when that suits the developer; what the Users want is beside the point.’” -- "Three Minutes with Richard Stallman" - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,137098-c,freeware/article.html

If a “Mode of Production” is defined by who controls the “Means of Production”, then the GNU Mode of Production is one in which the Users are at the helm, and **not** the Workers.

Patrick Anderson's proposals

A GNU profit sharing strategy.

The GNU General Public License uses Copyright law to ensure every Object User gains *their own 'copy' of* the **immaterial** ``Sources of Production``.

Similarly, the GNU General Public Law uses Property law to ensure every Object User gains *their own 'copy' of* the **material** ``Sources of Production``, and especially land.

This is done by slowly vesting property ownership of Sources (real estate, water rights, and other licenses or patents over finite resources) to the Users who paid that profit.

As Users gain ownership of the material Sources, they regain control of that production and no longer pay financial returns to other owners.

Observations

User Ownership is a special case in economics that has some interesting properties.

Rent and Profit *diasappear* as goods and services are **preallocated** to the Users who will use them.
Abundance and real solutions are goal and never thought 'destructive'.
Scarcity is not sought and those physical Sources are real insurance.
Work is not a goal, and can be safely reduced as we already own.
Prices can be ignored because the product is never sold (except surplus).
Entire supply chains can be localized and governed by the people who need that production.

FAQ

Q: What is the big deal about User ownership?

A: When Users are Owners, they regain control of production and rent seems to disappear.

Q: Why are you trying to protect the User instead of the Worker?

A: We are all Users.

Q: But how can you claim Workers won't be exploited when they are not the owners, and therefore will have no control?

A: Workers are also Users, of their own needs. We must protect the Worker's need, as a user, to Consume.

A: Working (employment) is not a need in itself, and can be safely reduced when Users have sufficient Ownership.

Q: Are you claiming unemployment is good?

A: Now we must Work to pay Rent.

A: But Rent is zero and Work is not a goal when Land is User-Owned.

Q: If profit is the problem, then why do non-profits not prevail?

A: Well, profit may occur whenever a product is sold, but non-profits hide those gains as extra wages or bonuses or other spending.

A: Profit is a symptom of the problem which is property misallocation.

A: This is easy to prove, since, when the users Own Sources, they do not buy those Products since, they own them already.

A: Profit does not exist in this scenario because the change-of-ownership at the point-of-sale has been eliminated.

A: We envision Tickets each user-owner would redeem to account for the goods and services they claim.

Q: May I charge money for Free Objects?

A: Yes, the GPL is a commercial grade free (as in freedom) trade agreement.

Q: How much can I charge for a GPL Object?

A: There is no limit, but some profit must buy even more land which finally vests to the Users who paid it.

Q: How much of the price can I claim as costs?

A: There is no limit.

A: Profit separates from wages as the number of co-owners increases.

A: The separation between profit and wages is arbitrary when the Sources are owned by a single person, and that person does all of the Work.

Q: Can I apply the GNU General Public Law to a physical source such as a rototiller and then rent it to customers?

A: Yes, in this case the 'Object' becomes the ephemeral 'Objective' of that User or the rivalrous slice of time as the duration of that rent.

Q: So if a car factory were under such a contract, anyone could just wander in off the street and try to build their own automobile?

A: Owners and co-owners will still want to protect their investments, so will often require tests to qualify. Owners may impose arbitrary conditions.

Q: Why would owners tie their own hands in this way to forgo profit?

A: So the physical Sources of production (such as land, water, plants, animals, buildings, tools) needed for production are available to them without paying tribute to others.

Q: But isn't profit the prime motivator of human society?

A: Product should be the only motivation for production.

A: Profit measures the User's lack of Source Ownership.

A: When Users own Sources, they own that future production without purchase.

Discussion

Patrick Anderson: It is the difficulty in organizing large collective investments that keeps Users (Consumers) from Owning the material Sources of Production.

Can we buy the land and tools to make the homes and food we need?

Can we co-own tiny private cities to ensure our future production?

Can we buy land with some % of profit, to vest to the Users who pay?

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-'''Model proposed by [[Patrick Anderson]]'''
+'''Mode of production and ownership proposed (c. 2007) by [[Patrick Anderson]], which is inspired by the philosophy behind the [[General Public License]]'''
-The GNU [[General Public License]] relies upon initial investing owners (developers) ''choosing'' to retain Copyright so the constraint: '''[[Virtual Sources]] must be made available "at cost" to any User with whom you share or trade [[Object]]s'''.  This [[Inter-Owner Trade Agreement]] is then perpetually held in place by [[Instance]] owners (anyone owning a ''copy'' of that [[Object]]).
+Patrick Anderson aims to apply these ideas to the field of physical production as well.
-The physical realm is much different, but a variation of these concepts can be applied using regular private property law.
+==Introduction==
-The GNU [[General Public Law]] similarly relies upon initial investing owners (often called developers by the way) to ''choose'' to add a constraint to any [[Object]] (whether physical or not) of: '''All [[Profit]] (and in fact any amount paid above cost) must be treated as an investment for that paying customer in more [[Physical Sources]] for the future production of that same kind of [[Object]] so that competition is perfected and democracy becomes direct.'''
+===Richard Stallman's Ideas===
-See our entry on the [[Inter-Owner Trade Agreement]].
+Patrick Anderson:
+The GNU GPL is very clear in its goal to insure the virtual Means of Production (source code) should be in the hands of the Users.
-=Description=
+When RMS speaks of freedom it is always about the User (consumer), not developer, author, producer, worker or owner.
-User Ownership is a special case in economics that has some amazing properties:
+“‘''With free software, the Users are in control. Most of the time, Users want interoperability, and when the software is free, they get what they want. With non-free software, the developer controls the Users. The developer permits interoperability when that suits the developer; what the Users want is beside the point''.’” -- "Three Minutes with Richard Stallman" - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,137098-c,freeware/article.html
-* Abundance and real solutions are goal, never thought 'destructive'.
+If a “Mode of Production” is defined by who controls the “Means of Production”, then the GNU Mode of Production is one in which the Users are at the helm, and **not** the Workers.
-* Scarcity is never sought and those sources are real insurance.
-* Unemployment is not a problem, it is the second goal.
+===Patrick Anderson's proposals===
-* Work is to be eliminated as a hurdle on the road to riches.
-* Low prices are always good and tend toward cost.
+A GNU profit sharing strategy.
-* Profit is meaningless except as consumer growth.
+The GNU [[General Public License]] uses Copyright law to ensure every [[Object]] User gains *their own 'copy' of* the **immaterial** ``Sources of Production``.
-This is the Mode held in place by the GNU [[General Public License]], and is slated by the Personal Sovereignty Foundation to be generalized into the physical sphere through GNU [[General Public Law]].
+Similarly, the GNU [[General Public Law]] uses Property law to ensure every [[Object]] User gains *their own 'copy' of* the **material** ``Sources of Production``, and especially '''land'''.
-As an example, when you pay for the costs of copying an apple, which would
+This is done by slowly vesting property ownership of Sources (real estate, water rights, and other licenses or patents over finite resources) to the Users who paid that profit.
-you say is better:
-. An arbitrary, non-working group of Owners control the care (they may
+As Users gain ownership of the material Sources, they regain control of that production and no longer pay financial returns to other owners.
-spray the orchard with dangerous chemicals) of those Sources, and can
-charge a price above cost to profit limited only by other competing
-Owners.
-. The Owners are the collective Workers that plant, water, maintain
+==Observations==
-and harvest the fruit.  They control the Sources similarly to the Owners
+User Ownership is a special case in economics that has some interesting properties.
-in #1, but at least they can pay themselves a higher Wage.  The consumer
-still has little control, is not allowed to do any of the work himself,
-and is still at the mercy of those who Own.
-. The perfect* Mode where the collective Owners are the Consumers
+* Rent and Profit *diasappear* as goods and services are **preallocated** to the Users who will use them.
-themselves.  They can make the copies themselves (tend their portion of
+* Abundance and real solutions are goal and never thought 'destructive'.
-the orchard in the manner they see fit - and within the constraint of
+* Scarcity is not sought and those physical Sources are real insurance.
-realistic divisibility), or they may hire others to work for them, but
+* Work is not a goal, and can be safely reduced as we already own.
-either way we (the users/consumers) are in complete control.  Such a mode
+* Prices can be ignored because the product is never sold (except surplus).
-also causes Price to be the same as Cost, as Profit has no meaning when
+* Entire supply chains can be localized and governed by the people who need that production.
-the consumer Owns the Sources - or in other words, if the Consumer did pay
-profit it, he would be paying himself.
-(*)Option 3 is not achievable in a perfect or static manner (especially during
+==FAQ==
-the initial growth period) because the consumer may not yet Own the
+: Q: What is the big deal about User ownership?
-Sources that were used during the round of production that created that
+: A: When Users are Owners, they regain control of production and rent seems to disappear.
-exact object, but this Mode can always be "approached" by Owners who
-choose to apply an inter-owner contract that requires any profit paid by
-consumers be an investment in more sources, or toward paying-off some
-current investments, and that that those shares become the semi-divisible
-property of that very same consumer."
+: Q: Why are you trying to protect the User instead of the Worker?
+: A: We are all Users.
-=Discussion=
+: Q: But how can you claim Workers won't be exploited when they are not the owners, and therefore will have no control?
-Patrick Anderson:
+: A: Workers are also Users, of their own needs.  We must protect the Worker's need, as a user, to Consume.
-It is the difficulty in organizing large collective investments that keeps Users (Consumers) from Owning the Physical Sources of Production that would allow us to then have "at cost" access and full control of the Objects of that Production.
+: A: Working (employment) is not a need in itself, and can be safely reduced when Users have sufficient Ownership.
+: Q: Are you claiming unemployment is good?
+: A: Now we must Work to pay Rent.
+: A: But Rent is zero and Work is not a goal when Land is User-Owned.
-The idea is: An initial group of potential Users joint purchase some physical Sources and voluntarily put that property under a contract that requires Owners treat all Profit each object trade be an investment for that new user into User Ownership of more physical Sources in that same corporation.
+: Q: If profit is the problem, then why do non-profits not prevail?
+: A: Well, profit may occur whenever a product is sold, but non-profits hide those gains as extra wages or bonuses or other spending.
+: A: Profit is a symptom of the problem which is property misallocation.
+: A: This is easy to prove, since, when the users Own Sources, they do not buy those Products since, they own them already.
+: A: Profit does not exist in this scenario because the change-of-ownership at the point-of-sale has been eliminated.
+: A: We envision Tickets each user-owner would redeem to account for the goods and services they claim.
-This causes growth to wax and wane according to the demand of those consumers.
+: Q: May I charge money for Free Objects?
+: A: Yes, the GPL is a ''commercial grade'' free (as in freedom) trade agreement.
-* User demand includes covering the costs of the last round of production.
+: Q: How much can I charge for a GPL Object?
-* User demand also contains the desire to grow represented as profit.
+: A: There is no limit, but some profit must buy even more land which finally vests to the Users who paid it.
-* User unmand is the user's desire to shrink or sell by not paying costs.
+: Q: How much of the price can I claim as costs?
+: A: There is no limit.
+: A: Profit separates from wages as the number of co-owners increases.
+: A: The separation between profit and wages is arbitrary when the Sources are owned by a single person, and that person does all of the Work.
-==== Prove or Disprove: User Ownership is optimal economic efficient
+: Q: Can I apply the GNU General Public Law to a physical source such as a rototiller and then rent it to customers?
+: A: Yes, in this case the 'Object' becomes the ephemeral 'Objective' of that User or the rivalrous slice of time as the duration of that rent.
-: 1. One source owner, one object consumer
+: Q: So if a car factory were under such a contract, anyone could just wander in off the street and try to build their own automobile?
-: 2. One source owner, multi object consumer.
+: A: Owners and co-owners will still want to protect their investments, so will often require tests to qualify.  Owners may impose arbitrary conditions.
-: 3. Multi source owner, one object consumer.
-: 4. Multi source owner, multi object consumer.
+: Q: Why would owners tie their own hands in this way to forgo profit?
+: A: So the physical Sources of production (such as land, water, plants, animals, buildings, tools) needed for production are available to them without paying tribute to others.
-=More Information=
+: Q: But isn't profit the prime motivator of human society?
+: A: Product should be the only motivation for production.
+: A: Profit measures the User's lack of Source Ownership.
+: A: When Users own Sources, they own that future production without purchase.
-Please see http://EcoComics.org for a more thorough analysis
+==Discussion==
+Patrick Anderson:
+It is the difficulty in organizing large collective investments that keeps Users (Consumers) from Owning the material Sources of Production.
-"The Comical Ecology Of Political Economy - or
+Can we buy the land and tools to make the homes and food we need?
-how the poor fund the war" at http://EcoComics.org/ecocom.html
+Can we co-own tiny private cities to ensure our future production?
-[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
+Can we buy land with some % of profit, to vest to the Users who pay?
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+[[Category:User_Owned]]
+[[Category:Business_Models]]
+[[Category:Change_Theory]]
+[[Category:Community_Owned]]
+[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
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+[[Category:Peereconomy]]