Rene Girard on Mimetic Desire

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1. A conversation with Professor René Girard about his theory of mimetic desire

URL = http://www.stanford.edu/dept/fren-ital/opinions/girard.html

Followed by a conversation about ritual, myth, and religion.


2. Video: Violence, Victims and Christianity

URL = http://theol.uibk.ac.at/cover/girard_oxford_video.html


Commentary about Mimetic Desire and Social Networks, by Adrian Chan

URL = http://www.stanford.edu/dept/fren-ital/opinions/

" Listen to Rene Girard, philosopher and grand theorist (and proud to say, of my alma mater, Stanford) and recently inducted into the Academie Francaise, on the air with his theory of mimetic desire.

Our desire for any object is triggered or stimulated by the desire that another has for that object. Two boys pursue the same girl as much out of their mimetic (imitating) desire as for their desire for the girl. That is not to be confused with their desire for each other -- that's not what it is. Mimetic desire involves a fundamentally social motivation, and seeing others do something is what inspires our mimetic acts.

Social networks seem to function in much the same way. We copy others, and that viral mechanism propagates and proliferates a choice, a preference, interest, or a desire. Media make for great carriers, and one might argue that our Friendsters, MySpaces, Tribes and so on are but internet-based versions of mass media in which people are content, and their communication is the medium's information.

If that is the case then, there's nothing that interesting about social networks but that they are very good at repeating the same choice, albeit a choice (for the same) made anew by a different person each time. I download U2 because you did too.

Listen to Rene. He's fantastic, and I have to say I'm convinced when I hear him that mimesis can indeed explain social phenomena. But as a fan of sociology and of communication theories in particular, the troubling implication of mimetic desire is that it suggests that we are bound to one another by repetition. Where would that put difference? The theory implies that social phenomena actually tighten relations around a sameness, that difference has no communication power of its own. We can "communicate" only what others can already hear, or worse, communication succeeds only when others desire the same.

Communication theories suggest that information is selected, that either agreement is reached between individuals based on understanding of linguistic statements, or that information is accepted or rejected (this doesnt involve agreement). But a communication theory in which the basis for interaction is information and reason, validity claims, truth conditions, and so on, tastes a bit too dry, doesn't it? Where is desire in that? Where is the experience of being together, of longing or reaching out, that we know is real?

There would be consequences for theories of social networking were one to suggest it's only mimetic desire at work, an endless chain of repetition and sameness but highly motivating. And consequences if it involves a communication of information grounded in speech, conversation, and interaction. Which matters more: showing members of a community what everyone's up to? Or providing clear lines of communication (better discussions, chats, talk technologies)..." (http://www.stanford.edu/dept/fren-ital/opinions/)