Moral Transformation Cycle
* Book. The River and the Star. Book One of the Moral Transformation Cycle series. By David Loye.
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Discussion
David Loye (interviewed by David Loye):
"I’ve written about this in a book of mine called the River and the Star, which is actually the first book for my seven book “Moral Transformation Cycle.” The first book is River and the Star: The Lost Story of the Great Explorers of the Better World. It’s possibly the best thing I’ve ever written. It’s out there with all the online booksellers worldwide. I write about Piaget, for example. Today, we’ve focused on the cognitive development he wrote about and forgotten about the moral development work that came earlier, but it was the most brilliant of all.
Russ: Interesting. So Piaget is another example of someone who has written about moral
development—not just Darwin—and that portion of their work is being ignored.
David: Yes, and that’s what I’m addressing in the River and the Star. I start with Immanuel
Kant. Who really pays any attention to him except for dull philosophers these days? But
he was a fireball! I move on to Herbert Spencer. Everyone writes him off as this rightwing ideologue. Well, he had some very important things to say about moral
development. Marx and Engels—they’re the demons, you know—but they significantly
advanced our understanding of moral development. I go into Freud and Emile Durkheim,
who is one of the towering figures in the study of moral development, then on to Piaget
and into the work of many people who I’ve worked with or knew, like Ashley Montague
and Milton Rokeach. I used to work with Milton and it’s a magnificent story. And I
include all of that work, except for the most recent, Carol Gilligan’s, because she’s still
living and tied to the Women’s Movement. Hardly anybody pays any attention to it
anymore so I’m determined to shove it at them.
In the seven books of my “Moral Transformation Cycle,” most particularly in the “Glacier and the Flame” trilogy. There I differentiate dominator moral insensitivity and dominator morality from partnership moral sensitivity and partnership morality in relation to Riane Eisler's fundamental work on domination and partnership systems. That is what we have to get across. Today, we live in this hybrid world where we’re hit with both versions; we’re muddled and mixed up. You go to church on Sunday, you tithe and go there on the holidays. But in the meantime, the other six days of the week, the orientation is screw your neighbor. Instead of “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” it has become, “Do unto others before they can do it unto you.” That’s the regressive dominator morality."
(http://integral-review.org/issues/vol_4_no_2_volckmann_interview_with_loye.pdf)