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In  this  talk,  Christian  suggested  a  structure  for  big  history  based  on  what  he  called  thresholds  of  complexity,  with  each  threshold  indicating  a  further  rise  of  complexity  within  big  history.  A  total  of  eight  thresholds  were  chosen.   
In  this  talk,  Christian  suggested  a  structure  for  big  history  based  on  what  he  called  thresholds  of  complexity,  with  each  threshold  indicating  a  further  rise  of  complexity  within  big  history.  A  total  of  eight  thresholds  were  chosen.   


In  his  TED  talk  these  thresholds  were   
In  his  TED  talk  these  thresholds  were   


1.  Big  Bang;  2.  The  stars  light  up;  3.  New chemical elements; 4. Earth and the solar system; 5.  Life  on  Earth;  6.  The  appearance  of  our   
1.  Big  Bang;   
  species;  7.  Agriculture; and 8. The Modern Revolution.  
 
2.  The  stars  light  up;   
 
3.  New chemical elements;  
 
4. Earth and the solar system;  
 
5.  Life  on  Earth;   
 
6.  The  appearance  of  our   
  species;   
 
7.  Agriculture; and 8. The Modern Revolution.  




In his book Origin  Story:  Big  History  of  Everything (2018)  these  thresholds  became   
In his book Origin  Story:  Big  History  of  Everything (2018)  these  thresholds  became   


1.  The  Big  Bang;  2.  The  emergence  of  stars;  3.  The  emergence  of  the  first  heavy elements forged in large stars; 4. The emergence of our solar  
1.  The  Big  Bang;   
  system; 5. The emergence of life on Earth; 6. The emergence of Homo sapiens; 7. The emergence of agriculture; 8. The emergence of the Anthropocene (starting  
 
in  the  20th  century);  and  9.  A  future  sustainable  world  order?   
2.  The  emergence  of  stars;   
 
3.  The  emergence  of  the  first  heavy elements forged in large stars;  
 
4. The emergence of our solar  system;  
 
5. The emergence of life on Earth;  
 
6. The emergence of Homo sapiens;  
 
7. The emergence of agriculture;  
 
8. The emergence of the Anthropocene (starting   in  the  20th  century);  and   
 
9.  A  future  sustainable  world  order?   




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(https://jbh.journals.villanova.edu/index.php/JBH/article/view/2723/2584)
(https://jbh.journals.villanova.edu/index.php/JBH/article/view/2723/2584)


=More information=
=More information=

Revision as of 06:50, 8 May 2023

Description

Cadell Last:

"(Through) complexity science ... we can read a story articulating the notion that our universe undergoes fundamental transformations described as ‘complexity thresholds’ (Christian 2008). Complexity thresholds occur when a form of structural organization emerges and stabilizes a novel regime of phenomena (a new level of the materialist hierarchy). Dominant descriptions of these complexity transitions have been grounded in either an informational base (universal complexity as best understood in algorithmic terms) (Baker 2013), or with an energetic base (universal complexity as best understood in thermodynamic terms) (Spier 2005). In these respective frames we seek to understand the way in which the universe generally processes information and the way in which the universe generally organizes energetic flows of matter.


The most common linear demarcation of these information-energy complexity thresholds into a universal narrative includes the following fundamental distinctions:

(MB: I adapted line 8 and 9)

  • 1 Origin of the universe (spacetime)
  • 2 First stars and galaxies (heterogeneity)
  • 3 Formation of chemical elements (diversification)
  • 4 Formation of Earth, solar system (localization)
  • 5 Emergence of life (self-reference)
  • 6 Emergence of humanity (narrativization)
  • 7 Transition to agriculture (civilization)
  • 8 Modern industrial revolution (national to international)

(note MB: I would add

  • 9: informational (global to cosmo-local)

(https://cadelllast.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/last-c.-2019.-symbolic-orders-and-the-structure-of-universal-internalization.pdf)


Discussion

A Critique

Fred Spier:

"The idea of thresholds of increasing complexity as the principal organizing principle for big history contains important flaws, and should be abandoned. A proper understanding of this controversial theoretical issue is vitally important not only for a good understanding of academic big history but also for teaching it both within academia and in secondary schools.Over the past ten years I have offered earlier versions of this criticism many times in private but expand on them here in public for the first time. While I differ on this issue with David Christian, who is the originator and principal advocate of the Thresholds Approach, I continue to respect and highly value his pioneering work in big history.

To understand the issues involved, first a history of the Thresholds Approach will be sketched. This will be followed by a critical examination of this concept. When and how did the concept of thresholds of big history emerge?

On March 2, 2011, David Christian gave a TED talk summarizing all of big history called “The History of World in 18 Minutes.” This was part of a session with the title Knowledge Revolution that was guest-curated by Microsoft cofounder Bill Gates. This TED talk was intended to launch their joint initiative, called the Big History Project (BHP), to create a secondary school project for teaching big history by providing online all the needed materials.

In this talk, Christian suggested a structure for big history based on what he called thresholds of complexity, with each threshold indicating a further rise of complexity within big history. A total of eight thresholds were chosen.


In his TED talk these thresholds were

1. Big Bang;

2. The stars light up;

3. New chemical elements;

4. Earth and the solar system;

5. Life on Earth;

6. The appearance of our

species;  

7. Agriculture; and 8. The Modern Revolution.


In his book Origin Story: Big History of Everything (2018) these thresholds became

1. The Big Bang;

2. The emergence of stars;

3. The emergence of the first heavy elements forged in large stars;

4. The emergence of our solar system;

5. The emergence of life on Earth;

6. The emergence of Homo sapiens;

7. The emergence of agriculture;

8. The emergence of the Anthropocene (starting in the 20th century); and

9. A future sustainable world order?


In the time line of the same book, Threshold 8 is also mentioned as the ‘emergence of the fossil fuel revolution.’ In his TED talk, Christian announced the Thresholds Approach as follows: Each stage [of rising complexity in big history] is magical. They create the impression of something utterly new, appearing from almost nowhere in the Universe. We refer in big history to these moments as thresholds moments.

In this article, the concept of Thresholds of Big History is critically examined. It should be abandoned because it is fundamentally flawed."

(https://jbh.journals.villanova.edu/index.php/JBH/article/view/2723/2584)

More information

  • Article: Major transitions in ‘big’ history. Robert Aunger. Technological Forecasting & Social Changed, 2007

URL = https://www.academia.edu/3007922/Major_transitions_in_big_history

"‘Big’ history treats events between the Big Bang and contemporary technological life on Earth as a single narrative, suggesting that cosmological, biological and social processes can be treated similarly. An obvious trend in big history is the development of increasingly complex systems. This implies that the degree to which historical systems have deviated from thermodynamic equilibrium has increased over time. Recent theory suggests that step-wise changes in the work accomplished by a system can be explained using steady-state non-equilibrium thermodynamics. This paper argues that significant macro-historical events can therefore be characterized as transitions to steady states exhibiting persistently higher levels of thermodynamic disequilibrium which result inobservably novel kinds or levels of organisation. Further, non-equilibrium thermodynamics suggests that such transitions should have particular temporal structures, beginning with sustainable energy innovations which result in novelties in organisation and in control mechanisms for maintaining the new organisation against energy fluctuations. We show how events in big history which qualify as historically significant by these criteria exhibit this internal structure. Big history thus obeys law-like processes, resulting in a common pattern of major transitions between steady-state historical regimes. This common process from cosmological to contemporary times makes big history a viable and relevant field of scientific study."