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'''Model proposed by [[Patrick Anderson]], where investors could choose to apply a [[Property Left]] agreement such as the [[General Public Law]] to some [[Physical Sources]] of production so the ownership of those sources would incrementally and continuously flow to the hands of new Users, i.e. consumers, and not be held by workers or some other random set of investors.'''
'''[[Mode of Production]] and ownership proposed (c. 2007) by [[Patrick Anderson]], which is inspired by the philosophy behind the [[General Public License]]'''


See our entry on the [[Inter-Owner Trade Agreement]].
==Introduction==


===Richard Stallman's Ideas===


=Description=
The GNU GPL is very clear in its goal to insure the immaterial Means of Production (source code) should be in the hands of every User.


User Ownership is a special case in economics that has some amazing properties.
When RMS speaks of freedom it is always about the User (consumer), not developer, author, producer, worker or owner.


When Users Own the [[Physical Sources]] of production:
''With free software, the Users are in control. Most of the time, Users want interoperability, and when the software is free, they get what they want. With non-free software, the developer controls the Users. The developer permits interoperability when that suits the developer; what the Users want is beside the point''. -- "Three Minutes with Richard Stallman" - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,137098-c,freeware/article.html <broken link>
: Price can safely approach cost (profit is only meaningful as User Growth).
: Employment


* Abundance and real solutions are goal, never thought 'destructive'.
If a [[Mode of Production]] is defined by who controls the [[Means of Production]], then the GNU Mode of Production is one in which the Users are at the helm, and **not** the Workers.
* Scarcity is never sought and those sources are real insurance.


* Unemployment is not a problem, it is the second goal.
==Observations==
* Work is to be eliminated as a hurdle on the road to riches.
User Ownership is a special case in economics that has some interesting properties.


* Low prices are always good and tend toward cost.
* [[Rent]] does not exist when you own Land to own your home without debt.
* Profit is meaningless except as consumer growth.
* [[Profit]] does not exist when you own Land to own the supply-chains you need '''and''' when you trade your future work for the future work of others. In this case, you do not buy those future goods and services from anyone since you '''own''' them already, and so the price you pay as a consumer is exactly the costs you paid as a co-owner and Profit does not exist because property ownership never changes.  This is full [[Vertical Integration]].
* Just as the solitary owner of a single tree owns that fruit before it is a flower, we can own orchards to own future fruit without purchase.
* Abundance and real solutions are goal and never thought 'destructive'.
* Security through food forestry and ancient building techniques become obvious again.
* Work is not a goal, and can be safely reduced as we will own all the (predictable) future Goods we need.
* Prices can be ignored because the Good is never sold (except surplus).
* When surplus is sold, those new users must also gain the material Sources of Production (Land ownership), else the system is no longer fully owned by the Users.
* Entire supply chains can be localized and governed by the people who need that production.


==FAQ==
: Q: What is the big deal about User ownership?
: A: When Users are Owners, they regain control of production and rent disappears.


This is the Mode held in place by the GNU [[General Public License]], and is slated by the Personal Sovereignty Foundation to be generalized into the physical sphere through GNU [[General Public Law]].
: Q: Why are you trying to protect the User instead of the Worker?
: A: We are all Users.


As an example, when you pay for the costs of copying an apple, which would
: Q: But how can you claim Workers won't be exploited when they are not the owners, and therefore will have no control?
you say is better:
: A: Workers are also Users, of their own needs.  We must protect the Worker's need, as a user, to Consume, especially essentials such as food and a home.
: A: Work can be safely reduced when Workers (as Users) own their homes and the supply-chains producing all they need.


1. An arbitrary, non-working group of Owners control the care (they may
: Q: Are you claiming unemployment is good?
spray the orchard with dangerous chemicals) of those Sources, and can
: A: For now it is required because we must Work to pay Rent.
charge a price above cost to profit limited only by other competing
: A: But Rent and Profit are zero when Land is User Owned.
Owners.


2. The Owners are the collective Workers that plant, water, maintain
: Q: If Profit is the problem, why do non-Profits not prevail?
and harvest the fruit. They control the Sources similarly to the Owners
: A: Well, Profit is just a *symptom* of the problem.
in #1, but at least they can pay themselves a higher Wage. The consumer
: A: The problem is property misallocation.
still has little control, is not allowed to do any of the work himself,
: A: When property is properly allocated, Profit does not exist.
and is still at the mercy of those who Own.
: A: Non-Profits simply hide Profit by claiming various extra costs.
: A: When Users Own Sources, they own those future Goods without purchase.
: A: Profit does not exist in this scenario because the change-of-ownership at the point-of-sale is eliminated.
: A: This is full vertical integration, where all transactions are change-of-custody, never a change-of-ownership.


3. The perfect* Mode where the collective Owners are the Consumers
: Q: May I charge money for Free Goods?
themselves.  They can make the copies themselves (tend their portion of
: A: Yes, the GPL is a ''commercial grade'' free (as in freedom) trade agreement.
the orchard in the manner they see fit - and within the constraint of
realistic divisibility), or they may hire others to work for them, but
either way we (the users/consumers) are in complete control.  Such a mode
also causes Price to be the same as Cost, as Profit has no meaning when
the consumer Owns the Sources - or in other words, if the Consumer did pay
profit it, he would be paying himself.


(*)Option 3 is not achievable in a perfect or static manner (especially during
: Q: How much can I charge for a GPL Good?
the initial growth period) because the consumer may not yet Own the
: A: There is no limit, but some Profit must buy even more Land which finally vests to the Users who paid it.
Sources that were used during the round of production that created that
exact object, but this Mode can always be "approached" by Owners who
choose to apply an inter-owner contract that requires any profit paid by
consumers be an investment in more sources, or toward paying-off some
current investments, and that that those shares become the semi-divisible
property of that very same consumer."


: Q: How much of the price can I claim as costs?
: A: There is no limit.
: A: Profit separates from wages as the number of co-owners increases.
: A: The separation between Profit and wages is arbitrary when the Sources are owned by a single person, and that person does all of the Work.


=Discussion=
: Q: Can I apply the GNU General Public Law to a physical source such as a tiller and then rent it to customers?
Patrick Anderson:
: A: Yes, in this case the 'Good' becomes access during that rivalrous slice of time.
It is the difficulty in organizing large collective investments that keeps Users (Consumers) from Owning the Physical Sources of Production that would allow us to then have "at cost" access and full control of the Objects of that Production.
: A: Note, to ensure all Users become Owners, each customer must gain ownership in that kind of material Source, either as sole-owner or (more often) co-owning with others who choose to co-own.


The idea is: An initial group of potential Users joint purchase some physical Sources and voluntarily put that property under a contract that requires Owners treat all Profit each object trade be an investment for that new user into User Ownership of more physical Sources in that same corporation.
: Q: So if a car factory were under such a contract, anyone could just wander in off the street and try to build their own automobile?
: A: Owners and co-owners will still want to protect their investments, so will often require tests to qualify.  Owners may impose arbitrary conditions.


This causes growth to wax and wane according to the demand of those consumers.
: Q: Why would owners tie their own hands in this way to forgo Profit?
: A: So the physical Sources of production (such as Land, water, plants, animals, buildings, tools) needed for production are available to them without paying tribute to others.


* User demand includes covering the costs of the last round of production.
: Q: But isn't Profit the prime motivator of human society?
* User demand also contains the desire to grow represented as profit.
: A: Profit measures the User's lack of Source Ownership.
* User unmand is the user's desire to shrink or sell by not paying costs.
: A: Profit simply ceases to exist when Users own Sources because they no long buy those Goods late, but own them already.
: A: When Users own Sources, they own future production without purchase.


==Discussion==
The difficulty in organizing large collective investments keeps most Users (Consumers) from owning the material Sources of Production (Land), in groups (and groups of groups, recursively) to own their homes without debt, and also to host the localized supply-chains required for essential production.


==== Prove or Disprove: User Ownership is optimal economic efficient
* Can we buy the Land and tools to make the homes and food we need?
 
* Can we co-own tiny private cities to ensure our future production?
: 1. One source owner, one object consumer
* Can we buy Land with some % of Profit, to vest to the Users who pay?
: 2. One source owner, multi object consumer.
: 3. Multi source owner, one object consumer.
: 4. Multi source owner, multi object consumer.
 
 
=More Information=
 
Please see http://EcoComics.org for a more thorough analysis
 
"The Comical Ecology Of Political Economy - or
how the poor fund the war" at http://EcoComics.org/ecocom.html
 


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Latest revision as of 19:38, 16 November 2025

Mode of Production and ownership proposed (c. 2007) by Patrick Anderson, which is inspired by the philosophy behind the General Public License

Introduction

Richard Stallman's Ideas

The GNU GPL is very clear in its goal to insure the immaterial Means of Production (source code) should be in the hands of every User.

When RMS speaks of freedom it is always about the User (consumer), not developer, author, producer, worker or owner.

With free software, the Users are in control. Most of the time, Users want interoperability, and when the software is free, they get what they want. With non-free software, the developer controls the Users. The developer permits interoperability when that suits the developer; what the Users want is beside the point. -- "Three Minutes with Richard Stallman" - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,137098-c,freeware/article.html <broken link>

If a Mode of Production is defined by who controls the Means of Production, then the GNU Mode of Production is one in which the Users are at the helm, and **not** the Workers.

Observations

User Ownership is a special case in economics that has some interesting properties.

  • Rent does not exist when you own Land to own your home without debt.
  • Profit does not exist when you own Land to own the supply-chains you need and when you trade your future work for the future work of others. In this case, you do not buy those future goods and services from anyone since you own them already, and so the price you pay as a consumer is exactly the costs you paid as a co-owner and Profit does not exist because property ownership never changes. This is full Vertical Integration.
  • Just as the solitary owner of a single tree owns that fruit before it is a flower, we can own orchards to own future fruit without purchase.
  • Abundance and real solutions are goal and never thought 'destructive'.
  • Security through food forestry and ancient building techniques become obvious again.
  • Work is not a goal, and can be safely reduced as we will own all the (predictable) future Goods we need.
  • Prices can be ignored because the Good is never sold (except surplus).
  • When surplus is sold, those new users must also gain the material Sources of Production (Land ownership), else the system is no longer fully owned by the Users.
  • Entire supply chains can be localized and governed by the people who need that production.

FAQ

Q: What is the big deal about User ownership?
A: When Users are Owners, they regain control of production and rent disappears.
Q: Why are you trying to protect the User instead of the Worker?
A: We are all Users.
Q: But how can you claim Workers won't be exploited when they are not the owners, and therefore will have no control?
A: Workers are also Users, of their own needs. We must protect the Worker's need, as a user, to Consume, especially essentials such as food and a home.
A: Work can be safely reduced when Workers (as Users) own their homes and the supply-chains producing all they need.
Q: Are you claiming unemployment is good?
A: For now it is required because we must Work to pay Rent.
A: But Rent and Profit are zero when Land is User Owned.
Q: If Profit is the problem, why do non-Profits not prevail?
A: Well, Profit is just a *symptom* of the problem.
A: The problem is property misallocation.
A: When property is properly allocated, Profit does not exist.
A: Non-Profits simply hide Profit by claiming various extra costs.
A: When Users Own Sources, they own those future Goods without purchase.
A: Profit does not exist in this scenario because the change-of-ownership at the point-of-sale is eliminated.
A: This is full vertical integration, where all transactions are change-of-custody, never a change-of-ownership.
Q: May I charge money for Free Goods?
A: Yes, the GPL is a commercial grade free (as in freedom) trade agreement.
Q: How much can I charge for a GPL Good?
A: There is no limit, but some Profit must buy even more Land which finally vests to the Users who paid it.
Q: How much of the price can I claim as costs?
A: There is no limit.
A: Profit separates from wages as the number of co-owners increases.
A: The separation between Profit and wages is arbitrary when the Sources are owned by a single person, and that person does all of the Work.
Q: Can I apply the GNU General Public Law to a physical source such as a tiller and then rent it to customers?
A: Yes, in this case the 'Good' becomes access during that rivalrous slice of time.
A: Note, to ensure all Users become Owners, each customer must gain ownership in that kind of material Source, either as sole-owner or (more often) co-owning with others who choose to co-own.
Q: So if a car factory were under such a contract, anyone could just wander in off the street and try to build their own automobile?
A: Owners and co-owners will still want to protect their investments, so will often require tests to qualify. Owners may impose arbitrary conditions.
Q: Why would owners tie their own hands in this way to forgo Profit?
A: So the physical Sources of production (such as Land, water, plants, animals, buildings, tools) needed for production are available to them without paying tribute to others.
Q: But isn't Profit the prime motivator of human society?
A: Profit measures the User's lack of Source Ownership.
A: Profit simply ceases to exist when Users own Sources because they no long buy those Goods late, but own them already.
A: When Users own Sources, they own future production without purchase.

Discussion

The difficulty in organizing large collective investments keeps most Users (Consumers) from owning the material Sources of Production (Land), in groups (and groups of groups, recursively) to own their homes without debt, and also to host the localized supply-chains required for essential production.

  • Can we buy the Land and tools to make the homes and food we need?
  • Can we co-own tiny private cities to ensure our future production?
  • Can we buy Land with some % of Profit, to vest to the Users who pay?