--Poor Richard (talk) 04:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC) Did indigenous people fare so well under modern legal systems that we should copy their pre-conquest strategies? That amounts to "lets pretend there are no outside laws or authorities that can threaten our claims to land or if they do we can fight them off because the Great Spirit is on our side." The only way to operate outside of "sovereign approval and oversight" is to operate illegally on the down low. Not a very secure position. That seems like a huge step backward in gaining and protecting the rights of minorities and indigenous peoples under modern legal systems and jurisdictions. --Poor Richard (talk) 04:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
As you say Richard, it all depends on the social balance of powers. But the Athenians and the free medieval cities were successful in imposing their charters, and currently, the free licenses have played a similar role. Traditional people have obtained some victories in countries like Australia, by using their customary law as charters. Of course, these charters have to be imposed on the state apparatus to be effective.