Talk:Holistic Problem of Manufacturing

"Fiddling while Rome burns"?

To stop this do the First Things First

All this erudite talk, although based on reliable facts, bury the need for an immediate and fundamental response to to a post-scarcity world.

That response is the institution of an unconditional basic Citizens' Dividend. Without that the people will not have the time and energy to fulfill their role as units of evolutionary change.

At the moment the compulsory employment system continues to steal these two basic personal resources from us.

Janosabel 14:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

From certain points of view things are simple

The raw reality of things in life is that we want to live. In order to do that we work for a living. And therein lies the most basic of social issues.

Society tells us that we have to earn a living by selling our labour to our fellow human beings. If we are offering something that no one wants to pay us for we are stuck.

So here is the next level step towards complexity: understanding how the economy works and why it is less and less possible to get a living wage through work (60 % of working people have to get subsidized via various welfare entitlements). So the problem of manufacturing is way above the basics of economic reality---methinks :-).

Earning a living

So no one finds the daily grind of "singing for supper" problematic?

Waiting for Nathan Cravens

Hi Jano, this is Nathan's page, and therefore, he should be responding, I'll give him a shout,

--MIchel Bauwens (talk) 07:27, 7 February 2013 (UTC)