Talk:ECC2013
I think we shall have problems if we try to overemphasize the monetary measurement. It's catch 22 - if you put a price tag on the common, it is not a common anymore. We should probably distinct between the resource and the benefit we can get from it.It's like a forest and the berry, or wood. For the culture, science and knowledge, if we properly define the relationship between the resource and benefits, we are halfway done. We keep resources under our care, available to others, according to rules of governance, and for doing that we are entitled to certain benefits. But out of these three magic elements, the community is the key. SO perhaps, the whole discussion should be about communities? --FreeLab Org PL (talk) 13:38, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
I see this differently. The commons is by definition outside of the monetary relationship, there can be no commons without the cardinal rule of 'communal shareholding', 'to each according to his needs, from each according to capabilities'. But the commons doesn't exist alone, when conditional exchange is needed, for example for a scarce or depletable resource, different solutions are needed, for example 'to each according to his contribution'. This can be a gift economy, a market, or any other mechanism for regulated allocation, such as also moneyless resource-based economics. In any case, you can't just decree coercively the abolishing of money (it was tried, catastrophically). Allen Butcher's Communal Economics studies, available on our wiki's main page (right hand column) is the most extensive overview of the practices of moneyless communities that are not individualistically oriented, and he has outlined the different allocation mechanisms that they have experimented with historically.
My hope is that with open book management and open supply chains, the networks around commons will be able to switch to resource-based economics, i.e. apply the stigmergic techniques that already work in the immaterial sphere, to the sphere of material production, but I expect with a lot more 'conditionalities' as argued before. --MIchel Bauwens (talk) 16:31, 25 January 2013 (UTC)