[p2p-research] Fun with email

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Sat Nov 28 17:11:35 CET 2009

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 01:48:22AM -0500, Samuel Rose wrote:
>> This has been an interesting thread for me to read, as I have my inbox
>> programmed to send all of Marco's emails straight to my trash file in
> Here's a suggestion. Let us all filter each other's emails into
> the void or a high-noise folder. After we no longer see each
> other's messages, let's just disband the list. How's that for
> a plan?

Oh no! You're right, this is exactly what will happen. Whatever was I thinking?

>> gmail. So, I only see all of everyone else's replies to Marco. I set
>> this up over a year ago. It's interesting that even though I have
>> Marco's email filtered, that the amount of his protests about the
>> nature of the activity on this email list still bleed through.
> You know, I read Marco and you, but I've filtered the people who
> think the form doesn't matter. I'm also annoyed that I'm still getting
> their regurgitations by proxy.

I frequently read many people that disregard form on this list. It is
my opinion that what they have to say is far more important than the
form of their email.

And, even if I *did* have a problem with the way they post, because I
have respect for them as people, I would refrain from being an
insulting douche bag about it. But, this is because I deem those
people worthy of my respect. If others do not, I can understand. Just
some food for thought...

>> I have decided to "filter on the way out", instead of asking all of
>> you to "filter on the way in".
>> What this means is that instead of trying to make everyone do things
>> the way that I think they should do them in the digital medium, I
>> accept everything. Then, I ask my machine, or the machines that I am
>> using by proxy to do the work of making the content usable and
>> digestable by me. This places the burden on machines instead of on
>> people, and it really works well. When I get tired of reading certain
> That doesn't really work. The problem is Turing-complete.
> The only way to make it work currently is to pay a person to do it for you.

My email programs happily trash any email from an specific email
address that I tell them to. So, turing-complete problem or not, I'm
all good! :-D

>> people's emails, I just tell gmail to stop putting them in front me!
>> :-D
>> David Weinberger was right: "filter on the way out, not on the way
>> in". The power of filtering your own email is but one example.
> Novel and interesting. Why don't you write a book about it.

Maybe I could call it "Everything Is Ignorable"?

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