[p2p-research] Workshop on Media Ecologies: Q&A: Sam Rose

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Wed Aug 26 00:01:44 CEST 2009

There's actually 2 parts to the conference:

1 part is people talking about stuff like what Alex is suggesting,
plus some of the standard ways of implementing that via technology

2nd part is people using info tech to collaborate specifically around
open source tech and fab lab/open source design. 2nd part is where a
demo like what Nathan is talking about would fit in

For my part, I wanted to do a demonstration using some of the software
releases that people at the conference have developed, and the
software that Paul and myself are developing, to show practical uses
for letting monolithic web applications talk to each other in useful
ways. This is why I was originally asking what software people out
there have developed, because I want to develop some
wrapper/extensions for your different software/platforms and use those
in a demonstration. And, Paul Hartzog would present a more
theory-based overview of the approach we are taking (if this meeting
will contain presentations at all, which was the other question I had)

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Alex Rollin<alex.rollin at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the demonstration is a good idea.  Robots are the present and
> future of production in many ways.  This conference is not so much
> about robots, but I find that showing people videos of the candyfab
> and then the more usable tools is  a great way to make an impact when
> 'recruiting' to the OS bandwagon cheer section.
> This conference seems to be leaning towards facilitating cooperation
> and collaboration.  I will be working on something more along the
> lines of my experience working with 100s of client organizations and
> how they have succeeded in developing cultures of cooperation when
> collaborating on complex projects over distances.
> A
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Nathan Cravens<knuggy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > The goal is to do anything remotely!
>>> >
>>> Our goal here is to first help people address the basic needs for
>>> energy, food, shelter, and general physiological and psychological
>>> survival using open source software and technology. Retorifitting
>>> existing urban infrastructure, putting vacant land and buildings to
>>> use, localizing food production, that sort of thing. I frankly way too
>>> busy with that work to rise the challenge of the remote paper folding
>>> robot.
>> Yes, I'm with you there Sam, but an elderly population like Japan in the
>> coming decades, assuming workers are not imported, these things must be done
>> remotely, then automated.
>> Folding paper is just one example...
>> Perhaps people in the hackerspace or fab lab community would present
>> something like this since they have the ability to pool more resources.
>> I'm rather disappointed that no one thus far finds such a demonstration all
>> that important. We need robotics to do tasks people would rather not do to
>> keep essential functions so it is practical to apply peer production
>> universally, where it is possible to manage all affairs asynchronously.
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