[p2p-research] no oil crisis?
rlanham1963 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 15 02:21:11 CEST 2009
I must say that I've read plenty by Avery Lovin--starting about 20 years
ago. I'd recommend him.
As to wringing hands, I suppose I am doing that. I don't hold any sign
humans can or will learn or respond to the issues at hand. They haven't so
far. We have a long history of collapse and very little history of
organized success. I give, personally, even less hope of a
libertarian/market solution--personally, I'd give the least hope to that.
So, you are right, I am hand-wringing. Touche.
Whether that qualifies me as a member of a doomsday cult, I dunno. I've
never been one much for organized churches of any sort. I try to run my own
numbers. It's become a way of thinking for me. I always run my own
numbers, even if I see them in front of me--I just don't trust conclusions
unless I do the math, if it is worthwhile and feasible to do so.
Overall, I try to make myself believe this or that based on empirical
facts. I'll confess to panic and jumping to conclusions.
My justification is that I work with citizens and have done so in many
formats. I know how hard it is to compel action--even in an obvious crisis.
People will cheat, twist, distort and frustrate things for reasons that are
beyond me...sometimes I suppose people just feel pain and need to bleed it
out somewhere. That's the best explanation of social irrationality I can
give. I work to educate people...it's a long, slow sometimes seemingly
hopeless endeavor. But the best I can do personally is to try to figure
things out and then to teach what I have learned to people. It is those who
teach from what they know in their core, what they have personally verified,
that I always have trusted most. It was the educational philosophy I was
brought up with, the one I chose in a university, and the one I espouse.
As to neo-agrarian societies, you are preaching to the choir. I love a
garden and a compost pile, but I have no intention of moving back to 1850.
I like stem cell transplants, cell phones, jumbo jets and laser-guided
drone-launched anti-terrorist missiles. One thing I have found out about
this little mailing list of 200 or so people is that it is filled with some
very smart, often highly accomplished and frankly weird folks. I suppose I
am one of the latter.
"NEW TO PEAK OIL? SCARED? START HERE: CONFESSIONS OF AN EX-DOOMER"
> "I consider myself to be a person of above-average intelligence and a
> critical thinker, and yet I was sucked in by the 21rst century's equivalent
> of a doomsday cult. I was ripe for the picking. ... I began to see the
> doomer viewpoint for what it is: dogma. A dogma is something you have to
> believe, without questioning it. And I began to see the hidden agenda of the
> powerdowners, namely, to bring about their utopian vision of the
> neo-agrarian society, no doubt with themselves its leaders. They know that
> most people won't willingly accept a return to centuries past, because most
> people are like me. We like our modern first-world lives! Some of us wish
> more people in the world could have the same lifestyle, even if it means
> sharing what's available a bit better. But if people can be convinced that a
> powerdown is as unavoidable as gravity, they may bring it about simply by
> surrendering to it and not looking for alternatives. Scratch the surface of
> the powerdowner philosophy, and you'll find Marxism dressed up in radical
> --Paul Fernhout
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